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lotr-sam0711
I've looked around but I still can't find anywhere where I can find a list of what stuff UU has that the regualr Uru doesn't. So could someone tell me? biggrin.gif
Alahmnat
More people.

And if you want to be pessimistic, more bugs wink.gif.

Really, UU is simply Uru: Ages Beyond Myst online. No new content (save for the ability to explore the City and the 'hoods), no new story. Unlike Live, there is no content promised or even intended, and there are no plans presently to fix any bugs you may encounter (including the dreaded lag). It's simply a way for the Uru community to continue to live and breathe in the world they've been given. To keep it alive until Cyan can get the ball rolling again on the Real Deal™. Hence the name smile.gif.

Pretty much the only two things you can do in UU that you can't in Uru are play Ahyoheek and scale the Gahreesen Training Wall. Ahyoheek is pretty basic, but still rather addictive (think rock-paper-scissors for 2-5 players), and also rather difficult to master. The Training Wall is like a vertically-mounted memory game where you try to scale the structure and avoid the barriers placed by your opponent. Only problem is, it's in the Gahreesen Training Center, which is hard to get to if you're bad at the jumping thing, and it also has a tendency to be rather glitchy at times.

It may not be everyone's thing, but it is at least completely free now, is open to everyone, and all of the newcomers will be on the same shard, with many of us old-timers spending a considerable amount of our playtime there as well.
Kaelri
Though I fully encourage you to give Until Uru a try, you should be warned beforehand that it will uninstall Path of the Shell, if you have it; three Ages, a few places in D'ni, five Relto pages and a few items of clothing are thus unavailable on UU. On the same note, the nature of the Gahreesen Training makes it impossible to get the Maintainer's Suit clothing, and a buggy door on D'mala makes the KI Calibration process impossible to complete.

Minor inconveniences, ultimately, and the feeling of journeying through the Ages of D'ni with other real people is worth much more than any of them. But you've a right to know.
Donahoo
QUOTE(Kaelri @ Feb 19 2006, 10:59 AM)
Though I fully encourage you to give Until Uru a try, you should be warned beforehand that it will uninstall Path of the Shell, if you have it; three Ages, a few places in D'ni, five Relto pages and a few items of clothing are thus unavailable on UU. On the same note, the nature of the Gahreesen Training makes it impossible to get the Maintainer's Suit clothing, and a buggy door on D'mala makes the KI Calibration process impossible to complete.

Minor inconveniences, ultimately, and the feeling of journeying through the Ages of D'ni with other real people is worth much more than any of them. But you've a right to know.
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Actually, you can keep your current version of POTS, but you would have to completely rename the folder. Then you can create another installation to use for Until Uru. Yes, you can get a maintainer's suit in Gahreesen, and play the wall game with other people.

And which buggy door prevents KI calibration? I'm not aware of one.
Kaelri
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Actually, you can keep your current version of POTS, but you would have to completely rename the folder. Then you can create another installation to use for Until Uru.


Certainly - I intend to do so, in fact - but they're still separate. The experience of exploring Er'cana or Ahnonay with others is still rather impossible.

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Yes, you can get a maintainer's suit in Gahreesen...


Oh, can you? Maybe that was just a bug in my game, then. smile.gif I can't link back to Relto while I'm in the Wall chamber, which would seem to be the only way to keep the suit in your wardrobe, as whenever you leave the Wall, the suit's automatically removed.

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And which buggy door prevents KI calibration? I'm not aware of one.
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Haven't gotten there yet myself - Teledahn's giving me headaches out the wazoo - but I've heard that one of the Markers is behind the locked Museum door on Ae'gura.
Alahmnat
I think Donahoo misinterpreted your Maintainer Suit comment, Kaelri... no, you can't bring your suit with you to Relto or put it in your closet, but you can indeed put one on to climb the Wall.

As for the Museum door, it was never opened in Live, and the UU shards that allow you to access it do so through a modified Python package, so not being able to get inside is not a bug, it's a feature wink.gif. The Great Zero was also never fully calibrated in Live, and I don't think it would be as simple as one person collecting all of the CGZM Marker missions. In fact, it probably would require a patch to bring the KIPS and marker game content online, so if Laxman gets that thing working, expect to be downloading a few files in the future wink.gif.
Donahoo
I didn't realize you wanted the maintainer suit in the closet. And there are a couple of extra markers so you don't need the one in the museum.
Durane
QUOTE(Donahoo @ Feb 19 2006, 04:32 PM)
I didn't realize you wanted the maintainer suit in the closet. And there are a couple of extra markers so you don't need the one in the museum.
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No, you do need the one in the Museum. This is for the calibration missions after you get into the Great Zero calibration chamber. For that, there are no extras - you have to get all of them.
Donahoo
That's true. You need the museum marker for the second or third mission.
Nala
It uninstalls PotS??? blink.gif Is there any way to get it back after you install UU?
Donahoo
You can rename the folder that contains your POTS installation to something that is totally different, then install the program again, run the patch for Until Uru and rename your original installation. You will have to repair, or create the desktop shortcuts and possibly the shortcuts on the start menu in order to play them both. I play my games from the D drive after installing a new C drive last year, and all I did was fix the shortcuts.
Nala
I'm not sure I understand.....

So all I have to do is rename the PotS folder, then reinstall? I've already got UU, does this matter?
Donahoo
QUOTE(Nala @ Mar 22 2006, 03:16 AM)
I'm not sure I understand.....

So all I have to do is rename the PotS folder, then reinstall? I've already got UU, does this matter?
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I'm not sure what it is that you are wanting to do? You already have UU installed? And you are wanting to play POTS again? I'm so confused. blankstare.gif
Nala
Not quite. I've already played PotS, then I installed UU. Now I want to get PotS back, and (hopefully) finish it this time. Is there any way to get it back, or do I have to delete UU first?
Donahoo
You have to rename your UU folder to something that the installation won't recognize as a previous installation. or move it to another site on your computer. Then after installing POTS, you can move it back or rename it back or leave it like it is. You just have to make sure your desktop shortcuts point to the right place.
G. Blackwood
There's an even simpler method...

Install your offline copy of Myst Uru: ABM or CC to the default directory, then create a new folder somewhere within the program files or wherever. Highlight EVERYTHING that's in the Myst Uru folder, copy and paste the contents into the new folder preferably named "Until Uru" or something different form the different install. When the copying is done, Download and install the apropriate Until Uru patch...and enjoy.

This method will not confuse the windows installer programs or screw up any short cuts you have. As long as you get a working short cut for "Until Uru"...

This is technically easier done than said... alahmnat.gif
Nala
Wait, I'm confused again.... does this account for the fact that I've already got UU?
I think it would be easier to uninstall UU, then reinstall PotS, yes? That would save me getting VERY confused... or am I missing something here?
Donahoo
QUOTE(Nala @ Apr 2 2006, 05:13 AM)
Wait, I'm confused again.... does this account for the fact that I've already got UU?
I think it would be easier to uninstall UU, then reinstall PotS, yes? That would save me getting VERY confused... or am I missing something here?
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That would work if you want to do away with UU and only have POTS to play. All these answers were assuming that you wanted to have them both on your computer at the same time - and were explaining how to do that.

What exactly are you trying to do? biggrin.gif
Nala
I've already got UU and PotS. Or I had PotS. I have since presumably lost it, and I want it back. However, I also want UU. Sorry if I wasn't being clear! blush.gif
So, what do I need to do again? I'm a bit of an idiot when it comes to computers.

Oh, and (sorry, this is off topic) why do I have a thingy that says 'Warn: (0%)' beside my username?
Alahmnat
QUOTE(Nala @ Apr 2 2006, 01:46 PM)
Oh, and (sorry, this is off topic) why do I have a thingy that says 'Warn: (0%)' beside my username?
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It's to let you know if you've done anything wrong here. Since it's at 0%, you haven't smile.gif. Don't worry, we don't hand those out very often at all.
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