Comments on: Labor Lost and My Beginning http://www.dpwr.net/alahmnat/2008/03/27/labor-lost-and-my-beginning/ Ramblings and General Insanity Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:03:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Erik http://www.dpwr.net/alahmnat/2008/03/27/labor-lost-and-my-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-5487 Erik Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:34:29 +0000 http://www.dpwr.net/alahmnat/2008/03/27/labor-lost-and-my-beginning/#comment-5487 A lot of brainstorming going on these days! :) Your proposal focus more on D'ni than the other Ages and I like that. I've always wanted to see more of the cavern, but it seems like Cyan went for the 'easy' way and only made new Ages. (It could also be that they had lots of plans for the cavern for season two.) About the instances... I agree that more Ages should have been public only. I disliked that Cyan kept giving people a choice, probably because they were afraid of arguments that happened with Delin and Tsogal. There were even arguments about that you needed someone else in Ahnonay for just a minute. Cyan should just have ignored those people. I agree that the instancing should be refined. I do think there need to be separate instances for the puzzles Ages (e.g. Teledahn) though. I was disappointed when I find out that the pods weren't public. It would have been much cooler if the pods were public zoos were you could also meet other people. There could be a limit of 15 people and when the limit is reached, new people would be automatically linked to a new public instance. Also, Ae'gura should never have been made private in my opinion. I don't think the DRC should go away though. I liked them. They weren't that much involved in the story during MOUL, but we still needed them to represent Cyan and to open up new areas. How do you otherwise explain that some areas are inaccessible or that they are opened suddenly? I like your proposal for the shaft, just like I like Tweek's. I think those proposals could be combined in a way. I doubt that we'll see Uru return though. If it does, I think it needs a technical overhaul. Uru was tweaked for MOUL and some things didn't really work because of that, but it was still fine for me and it worked. I think the story was cool, although it should have gone faster. But, if Uru comes back, I don't know if it'll survive more of those tweaks and tricks to keep Uru capable of running the story on that new platform it would be on. It would get harder and harder for Cyan to let Uru do what they want I think, if they would tweak it again. A redesign of the KI and the technical side of Uru should probably be necessary. And they should think about how they would like (or not like) the instancing. About not having Relto... That's quite a change. But I read somewhere that Cyan's original vision for Uru didn't include Relto at all, so it should be possible. The DRC's focus should be more on D'ni, and not having Relto would improve that. Living in D'ni would be much better I think. I used to travel everywhere without using Relto. Of course, you always start in Relto, but after that, I would only use the Nexus to get everywhere, just because it felt more like real linking. Unfortunately this was made impossible in MOUL. Since the DRC had also taken Yeesha's journey, they neglected placing Nexus terminals in Minkata and the Pubs. I don't mind that they took the journey, but they should have continued with placing Nexus books. Going through the tunnels to D'ni ... that's what we've all longed for for a long time (most people a lot longer than I have). Will the day that we can go there ever come? A lot of brainstorming going on these days! :)

Your proposal focus more on D’ni than the other Ages and I like that. I’ve always wanted to see more of the cavern, but it seems like Cyan went for the ‘easy’ way and only made new Ages. (It could also be that they had lots of plans for the cavern for season two.)

About the instances… I agree that more Ages should have been public only. I disliked that Cyan kept giving people a choice, probably because they were afraid of arguments that happened with Delin and Tsogal. There were even arguments about that you needed someone else in Ahnonay for just a minute. Cyan should just have ignored those people.
I agree that the instancing should be refined. I do think there need to be separate instances for the puzzles Ages (e.g. Teledahn) though. I was disappointed when I find out that the pods weren’t public. It would have been much cooler if the pods were public zoos were you could also meet other people. There could be a limit of 15 people and when the limit is reached, new people would be automatically linked to a new public instance. Also, Ae’gura should never have been made private in my opinion.

I don’t think the DRC should go away though. I liked them. They weren’t that much involved in the story during MOUL, but we still needed them to represent Cyan and to open up new areas. How do you otherwise explain that some areas are inaccessible or that they are opened suddenly?

I like your proposal for the shaft, just like I like Tweek’s. I think those proposals could be combined in a way.

I doubt that we’ll see Uru return though. If it does, I think it needs a technical overhaul. Uru was tweaked for MOUL and some things didn’t really work because of that, but it was still fine for me and it worked. I think the story was cool, although it should have gone faster. But, if Uru comes back, I don’t know if it’ll survive more of those tweaks and tricks to keep Uru capable of running the story on that new platform it would be on. It would get harder and harder for Cyan to let Uru do what they want I think, if they would tweak it again. A redesign of the KI and the technical side of Uru should probably be necessary. And they should think about how they would like (or not like) the instancing.

About not having Relto… That’s quite a change. But I read somewhere that Cyan’s original vision for Uru didn’t include Relto at all, so it should be possible. The DRC’s focus should be more on D’ni, and not having Relto would improve that. Living in D’ni would be much better I think. I used to travel everywhere without using Relto. Of course, you always start in Relto, but after that, I would only use the Nexus to get everywhere, just because it felt more like real linking. Unfortunately this was made impossible in MOUL. Since the DRC had also taken Yeesha’s journey, they neglected placing Nexus terminals in Minkata and the Pubs. I don’t mind that they took the journey, but they should have continued with placing Nexus books.

Going through the tunnels to D’ni … that’s what we’ve all longed for for a long time (most people a lot longer than I have). Will the day that we can go there ever come?

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